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Old 21-01-2018, 04:41   #148
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Recap of how we got here:
1 Trump rescinds DACA, demands Congress act within 6 months
2 Senate forms bipartisan talks on DACA
3 Trump promises to sign whatever group comes up with
4 Group reaches bipartisan deal
5 Trump does 180, rejects deal, leaving DACA kids to be deported
Your recap is just not accurate and shows a lack of insight in your quick dash to have another pop at Trump.

Trump kicked DACA in September 2017, down the road to Congress for it to be replaced with a proper legislative bill that is debated on and discussed and voted on, then DACA is Constitutionally sound.

Last week, President Trump and 16 Senators met up for a bipartisan congressional meeting on immigration, in the cabinet room in the White House, in which the scope of the meeting, DACA was discussed. DACA was not the sole reason for the meeting.

So to cut a long story short...the actual reason we are here with this current Government shutdown is because the Democrats have tried to hijack the new Budget by including a non-Budgetary item as leverage to have all parties avoid a government shutdown, they damn well know that even with the fact that GOP have majority in all three branches of government, it still requires a super majority of 60 in the Senate to pass the new Budget, so they will not agree to pass new budget unless DACA is protected.

Trump and Republicans are not prepared to negotiate and refusing to be held hostage over illegal immigration or DACA. So there is now a Stalemate.

There has not been a DACA Bill debated on to sign or Veto by Trump, so it's kinda of impossible for him to have done a 180 on a non-existent DACA Bill.

6 months from September 2017, is March 2018. Congress has over a month to get DACA legislated.

There is the real risk here that Trump may not be able to extend the DACA program further, even if he wanted to sign a new Executive Order that granted further protections, because it has not yet been properly legislated on and as has been pointed out several times now, President Obama, far exceeded his Executive overreach when he implemented DACA and with the fact that there is currently 10 States and their attorneys generals, threatening a lawsuit against it because, as it stands, it is unconstitutional.

Meanwhile while there is a blame game going on, I actually agree with what Damien said earlier on that no-one comes out on top here, real people are not getting paid, especially those on the front line and in first response roles.

Democrat Minority leader, Nancy Pelosi was apparently out celebrating the shutdown tonight with other House Democrats, bearing in mind the shutdown is currently affecting 9 Million kids with CHIP Insurance, real funding is running out here.

So let's get this straight here, Democrats do not oppose anything that is in the Budget, they are, most of them refusing to vote on it because it does not include DACA protections, so in essence, they are putting Illegal Immigration first over their own American citizens. This will not go down well come Mid terms later this year.

I am pleased to see that the newly elected Democratic Senator, Doug Jones did not side with the hard line obstructionist Democrats, who oppose absolutely everything because they cannot get over their prize star, Hillary losing an election.
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