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Old 09-12-2017, 13:08   #1202
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
A trade deal does not mean no hard border. The EU has a trade deals with several nations and there are still bordered. America has borders despite being in NAFTA. That’s not what a trade deal means.

The government clearly does not have alternative plans because if they did we would know them by know. There is either a border or there isn’t and irrespective of your personal faith that May has not moved on the Customs Union it’s there in black and white that the fallback option should the border not be sorted that the U.K. will not put one up.

If you want goods to move freely between nations without custom checks then you need to be in the Customs Union. If we say we’re simply not going to put up a border in the special case of Ireland the WTO says the same applies to other nations.

You’re entitled to believe whatever you want and overall I think May has down well by Brexiters but even the most loyal hardcore Brexit people can see there has been movement on the issue of the border.

I am not even sure if you’re serious because it seems every item of the agreement was a fantastic win for May to the point of parody.
I'm hoping it's parody and not naivety. Interesting article in the FT about how Switzerland still has a hard border.
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Border infrastructure and customs declarations are necessary, however, because Switzerland is not part of the EU’s customs union or value added tax regime, which are separate from the single market. This difference requires both sides to build and staff a hard border with sometimes significant delays...
For trading companies, each load requires a customs declaration, multiple forms and stamps by the tax authorities to ensure that the formalities are closed on each side before goods cross the tax border. Within the Union none of this applies because complete regulatory alignment is married to an EU VAT regime, all within the customs union. This VAT system has its problems, but ensures that goods can flow across borders with no formalities...
Regulatory alignment would remove only some of Brexit’s border barriers in Ireland. The UK and Ireland should take note.
https://www.ft.com/content/2d30482c-...9-c64b1c09b482
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