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Originally Posted by Osem
Yes of course some are some aren't. That's self evident. For anyone to say all immigrants benefit the UK though is just as silly as saying none of them do. I've worked abroad in far less liberal places than you and am married to someone who's not from the UK so we know plenty of migrants and some are a lot harder working than others just as you'd expect in any group of people. I can see it from both perspectives and so can she but, for me at least, the immigration debate has always been about having some control of quality and quantity. For far too long we've had/exercised neither and it's perfectly obvious where that has led us. Whilst the politicians and economists might like to see an ever increasing GDP, achieving it through population growth as opposed to productivity isn't the answer. We simply can't keep adding 1m people to the total every 3 years and not expect there to be inreasing problems. That reality of population growth has to be faced sooner or later and I'd rather it didn't take increasing social unrest to do so.
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Of course the facts do your fit your EU hate agenda. In the year ending March 2017, the EU net migration was currently 127,000. This, allied to the fact that:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36449974
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following amendments to The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 .
As things stand, EU citizens who come to the UK to find work cannot claim jobseeker's allowance during their first three months in the country.
After that they can claim for a total of 91 days, which can be split across several periods of jobseeking. They can continue claiming beyond that period if they can demonstrate that they are actively looking for a job and are likely to get it.
After a total of six months they can be removed if they still have not found a job, and have no realistic possibility of finding one, and require support from the welfare system.
These rules have been in place since early 2014, and are in line with existing EU legislation.
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means that the whole line about
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Do we really want open borders to unskilled migrants who just come here to ride the benefits gravy train and steal and rob from our own citizens?
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is a big Daily Mail style con trick