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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Why do so many Remainers want Britain to fail? asks TIM NEWARK
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/exp...ail-Tim-Newark
The real problem is that too much negative reporting on our negotiating position from the liberal media could have a detrimental influence on business confidence by exacerbating fears about our ability to strike a free trade deal.
Make no mistake, this is not some abstract issue of interest only to economists, it would mean real people choosing to invest less money in our economy.
"If investment falters, Bank of England Governor Mark Carney has proved already that he is only too keen to keep interest rates at a historic low.
But as well as encouraging spending this in turn keeps sterling down and leads to higher inflation.
Such are the dangers that could undermine a successful Brexit.
The enemy is not Michel Barnier – who is doing exactly the job required of him – but the Remoaners in our country seeking to undermine the democratic will of the nation to satisfy their own elitist beliefs." |
Your quote appears to indicate the writer's opinion is that the press shouldn't be publishing anything critical but should rather feed us propaganda to avoid undermining business confidence.
He then has the temerity to complain about democracy and elitism. If the man actually cared about democracy, rather than only being concerned about it when it suited him, he'd be open to that the UK's position can and may change, and to respect that, not demand that because his side 'won' there must be no dissent.
Most don't want the UK to fail, and I can't see how such rhetoric achieves anything besides division and further resentment. Describing people as 'enemies' because they don't share an opinion is disgusting.
If the Express is serious about wanting the best possible result for the UK, rather than the best possible result for Richard Desmond's tax bill, they could do worse than not publishing things like that.
I'd recommend a read of of the below, instead.
http://jackofkent.com/2017/09/critic...football-team/
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Originally Posted by Osem
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Things have certainly changed from the pre-referendum days when David Davis claimed our first stop would be Germany to cut a bilateral deal as German industry would lean on their government.
The exact quote is this:
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"There are extremely serious consequences of leaving the single market and it hasn't been explained to the British people. We intend to teach people… what leaving the single market means."
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Sadly not as explosive as the idea Barnier wants to teach the UK a lesson.
The sad part for me is you'd have hoped we'd have been taught this during the referendum campaign. It could be said we were, but it was written off as 'Project Fear'.
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Originally Posted by Osem
There's clearly a large element of that as I stated elsewhere above If there is no deal at the end of this it'll be down in large part to the EU's intransigence and intention to send a warning message to other club members.
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Not really. The Conservative Party cutting off most options to play to their party faithful and win votes hasn't exactly helped either. Last year's conference dramatically reduced the UK's ability to negotiation and removed most of our latitude for absolutely no gain to the country, just a hoped-for gain for the Tories.
What the UK is asking for is absurd and impossible for the EU to even consider.
One example of the absurdity of the situation is encapsulated in this -
https://twitter.com/MarrShow/status/904268532103315457
Any time pressures right now are largely the result of Article 50's timing being centred around party political reasons rather than pragmatism, then the wasting of a few months on an unnecessary election.
Even the timing of a transition period is being done for political reasons, the hard limit on it being before the next general election is due.
When I have the time I'll provide some examples of why so many of our demands so far are impossible. Those don't even provide a basis for negotiation, they are ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Osem
We all have our opinions but the one indisputable fact is that the referendum vote was to leave not to stay half in, half out or any other variant that involves the UK being subservient to the EU without any choice in the matter.
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If we want to trade with the EU freely that's simply not possible.
The EU is bound by the ECJ, so any trade agreement we want must, either directly or indirectly, be 'subservient' to the ECJ from their side.
Funny, there's a court in Luxembourg that fits the bill perfectly, not being subservient to the EU but in partnership.