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Old 30-08-2017, 18:13   #2711
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
The ultimate solution must involve getting back our sovereignty, taking back control of immigration, no more excessive payments to be wasted by the EU and making our own trade deals.
We never lost our sovereignty and the home office was too busy trying to impress the press with pointless fights with the ECHR to use the control we did have over immigration.

As far as making our own trade deals go, apparently we're going to copy/paste the EU's and as we've taken back control amend them as we see fit.

This is ridiculous, but if taken on face value this woman appears to think it's entirely within the UK's gift to make trade deals with other nations on terms they agreed with the EU then amend them as we see fit.

If this is the best we can do after 14 months we're in some strife.

If I may, the idea that 98% of leave voters voted to leave the EEA seems at odds with polls from before the referendum indicating that 2/3rds of all voters supported EEA membership, this taking in about 25% of eventual leave voters.

However, from the moment Gove and Johnson faced the cameras ashen-faced, and Boris realised his plan to go down in flames and use it to launch his leadership ambitions had gone completely pear-shaped things changed.

On a slight tangent it's actually pretty amusing. You look at the look on Trump's face when it became clear he was going to win and Johnson's face when leave won and you can happily tell they were two men having to do something they really didn't want to.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
If I may, the idea that 98% of leave voters voted to leave the EEA seems at odds with polls from before the referendum indicating that 2/3rds of all voters supported EEA membership, this taking in about 25% of eventual leave voters.
All this said you mentioned sovereignty. In the UK Parliament in sovereign and have done a number of things in the past that were not favoured by the majority, so it wouldn't be unprecedented.

We'll see what happens, those are old arguments endlessly recycled as an attempt to make the case to remain in the EU and very tiresome.
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