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Old 06-07-2017, 23:30   #2168
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Not sure why you bother? Some people are happy to accept any consequence of Leaving so telling them what is likely to happen will just wind them up.

They really don't care if we are worse off. It is a religious thing ... look at the contempt & ridicule shown to someone who holds the opposite opinion.
I just believe in democracy and freedom of expression and acknowledge that in politics, there's often never a right or wrong answer. I guess that makes me an old-fashioned liberal.
I've never been the greatest fan of the EU (but most of us in the UK haven't) but some of the inaccuracies peddled in the name of Brexit make Tony Blair look like a saint on steroids!
The truth of the matter is that there is a trade-off between control of your country and its prosperity. That's an uncomfortable truth for some but not all Brexiters. If you don't want to accept the rulings of global courts then that rules out WTO membership which is the North Korean situation.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Correct. This would not be the case in a Federal Europe with one federal government, which although not wanted by the majority, would at least make Europe work more efficiently. Hell, even the Euro could be made to work in a United States of Europe.

Two examples of wrong decisions being made on setting up this whole convoluted structure which have condemned this monolithic bureaucracy to failure.

Implosion imminent.
When is imminent? People here predicted its demise five years ago. Since then it's expanded and has just signed a trade deal with Japan.
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