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Originally Posted by Damien
I know people who work at the center that formed the base camp for support and some celebrities turn up in private, such as Adele, to offer help. Remember after George Michael died and it turned out he had been working at a homeless shelter for years without publicity?
Celebrities are just like normal people. There will be those who want to help, those who do it because it makes them feel better about themselves and those who do it for cynical self-promotion. All are things that apply to ordinary people too.
The main difference is they have a platform to amplify their cause in a way ordinary people do not. I see little reason to object to that when the cause is so uncontroversial as raising money for those that have lost their home. Does it matter if they are doing it to feel better about themselves? That's what a lot of people who do good do it for, doing good for others makes you feel good too.
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I have no problem what they do behind the scenes and I'm very well aware of many of the very good deeds done by George Michael and others. It matters to me if they are doing it primarily to obtain PR and rebuild flagging careers and of course that doesn't apply to all of them. I just find it very distasteful that people who have more money than they could ever know what to do with so often choose to give in a manner which costs ordinary people who are the ones who're buying the records and attending the charity concerts. What I detest is the pious mentality through which some of these people seek to give the world the impression they really care when their caring usually involves costs or sacrifices borne by others who have far far less than them.
The other day IIRC Andy Murray pledged his Queens Club winnings to the cause. Why did he need to tell the world that? He's done similar before IIRC, promising so much charity money for every ace he served at Wimbledon or something like that. Why not do what George Michael did and just give some money and keep quiet? As it turned out his winnings weren't very much and I'd like to think he's done what he should have in the first place if he's really interested in that charity. I'm sure he's given to other charities but just don't feel comfortable with the need to do it in this manner. To be fair, at least he didn't promise to house people with no real intention of doing so like so many other people did so disgracefully.
On the one had yes it's nice that charities benefit either way but it leaves a really bitter taste in my mouth that ultra rich celebrities boost their careers and get lauded whilst the real heroes get overlooked apart just like they all too often do. It'll be the rich celebs who get the recognition and dine out on this not the heroes like the guy in Manchester I heard this morning on BBC radio who was one of the first to respond to the bomb attack in Manchester and has been finding life since really very tough.
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Originally Posted by nomadking
If only it was the cladding that had been the problem. IT WASN'T. It was the insulation. When are people going to get that? Why hasn't anybody(other than myself) checked out the plans and materials used? The materials used are rated ok, IF the installation of them is designed properly.
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This is now a political problem and no government/politician is going to want to be seen to allow the further use of these material and then be accused of not caring about social housing etc. etc. It doesn't matter what the experts claim if the political damage caused is going to be significant. It wouldn't surprise me if there's a complete overreaction to this and decisions will be made that contradict expert opinion for political reasons. Spend countless millions of pounds (possibly unnecessarily) and you can make yourself look good but try telling people in flats clad in the same stuff that it's safe, even if it has been done properly and is safe. They're going to believe what they want to believe now and I can understand why...