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Old 16-06-2017, 11:38   #422
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Re: The 2017 General Election

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
More of Corbyn's hypocrisy:

https://order-order.com/2017/06/16/r...-human-rights/

So he tells everyone the Tories want to repeal the human rights act in order to further subjugate the rights of ordinary people yet then recommends a course of action -requisitioning other people's property - which is contrary to the provisions of that very act.
I think Guido has left some parts of the ECHR out there, unless it's overrriden in the UK version of it:

http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG.pdf

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Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment
of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions
except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided
for by law and by the general principles of international law.

The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair
the right of a State to enforce such laws as it deems necessary
to control the use of property in accordance with the general
interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions
or penalties.
This article here also suggests the public interest can override the right to property:

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/...ction-property

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There are some situations in which public authorities can take things you own or restrict the way you use them. This is only possible where the authority can show that its action is lawful and necessary for the public interest. If your property is taken away, you should be entitled to compensation.

The government must strike a fair balance between your interests as a property owner and the general interests of society as a whole.
After all I believe this is how compulsory purchase orders, needed for something like HS2, aren't in violation of the ECHR (although probably result in many a court case).

Now I don't think this is feasible because CPOs take a while to action with an appeals process and since we're talking about very expensive houses it could cost a ton.

Corbyn is spouting a populist and unrealistic policy but I don't think it's a breach of the ECHR. I am not a lawyer but I think Guido has gone with a weak case there.

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To be honest I'd have thought Corbyn had plenty of super rich lefty celebrity mates with more than a few spare bedrooms, if not houses not a million miles away from the location of the terrible tower block fire. Maybe they could just get on set us all an example instead of constantly whining about other people not doing their bit whilst they're off further feathering their own nests...
I think a lot of the 'rich lefities' have been helping. Hans Zimmer donated all the proceeds of his concert the other night the fund, many have contributed to the fund (I know Coldplay and Brian Eno did), Jamie Oliver got his restuant in White City to feed/drink those made homeless for free, Lily Allen offered rooms to people reportedly as she lives in the area, Raheem Sterling also made a big donation it seems.

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