[ianch99]

I think you are clutching at straws if you think Labour did as well as they did because of students voting twice ..

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Originally Posted by Chris

Labour Party policy is to end freedom of movement. Absent an unprecedented concession from the EU, membership of the single market is tied to freedom of movement.

I'm not sure what planet you've been on for the last 30 years but Corbyn has always been against the EU. His performance in the referendum campaign demonstrates that whatever he may say to the contrary, he is still against it.

We are leaving the EU by the only route available. Out of the single market, out of the customs union, out of the free movement agreement.

There is no such thing as hard or soft Brexit. There is either leaving the EU, or not leaving it. Retaining Freedom of movement (no immigration control), Prevention of independent trade deals (the customs union) and supervision of all of the above by the ECJ while surrendering our seats in the Council and the Parliament (what some call "soft" Brexit) amount to *not* leaving the EU at all.

I don't often agree with Chris but he is spot on: Corbyn (and this is one of the main reasons I did not vote for him) is that he was a pathetic leader of the Remain campaign. In fact, I would go as far to say that I think he actually voted Leave ..

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Originally Posted by Mick

I have already said the link with DUP and Terrorists is weak, the group DUP was only tied to, UR, for only a year, was ON our side, but they did not kill anybody, they just armed themselves, illegally during the IRA uprising era, we all know the IRA did kill people, big difference !

I would say their associations with Protestant terrorists leave them open to justified criticism:

No DUP apology for Ulster Resistance, despite gun-running leading to murders

The DUP has insisted that it has consistently opposed law-breaking, following fresh revelations about how a paramilitary group founded by party members had worked with the UVF and UDA to import guns which were subsequently used to murder people. The Police Ombudsman’s 157-page report into the Loughinisland atrocity, published last week, contains details which reveal that the guns used in that attack were imported into Northern Ireland by Ulster Resistance

The Ombudsman’s report into the Loughinisland atrocity states that guns which Ulster Resistance helped import were used in at least 70 murders and attempted murders.

DUP chief Arlene Foster met UDA boss days after loyalist murder in Bangor

Arlene Foster has defended meeting a UDA chief within 48 hours of the loyalist feud murder in Bangor of Colin Horner in front of his three-year-old son.

The DUP leader yesterday admitted meeting UDA boss Jackie McDonald in south Belfast. The Ulster Political Research Group, which provides political advice to the UDA, yesterday endorsed the DUP's Emma Little Pengelly for the South Belfast constituency.