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Old 10-06-2017, 14:56   #227
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Re: The 2017 General Election

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana View Post
Think you are getting a little carried away. The Conservative campaign was shocking as was their manifesto and yet they still beat labour by 56 seats. It was also the highest turnout since 97 and the majority appear to have been students who leaned towards Labour.

The Conservatives also increased their share of the vote by 12.4% whereas Labour increased by 9.8%.

So, in my opinion, they had their chance and blew it.
I can certainly see the Conservatives doing better next time around but equally it's clear that Labour are far stronger now than before the election whilst the government is much weaker. If Labour resist the temptation to collapse inwards of themselves they could be better: Corbyn will be getting the loudest cheer from his backbenchers at the first PMQs back, you might get heavyweights returning to the front bench - Yvette Cooper instead of Abbot for example - and just more credibility in general.

I don't think the Tories are in as much peril for a second election if they got their act together with a different leader, a less nasty campaign and a more inclusive message. May thought she could alienate almost half the country, especially young people, to entice UKIP voters over and win easily. Most of us thought so too. Turns out UKIP voters aren't shy Conservatives though and suddenly all those people she dismissed were more important.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
From yesterday's News Quiz.

Jeremy Corbyn proved wrong all those people who said he couldn't win an election, by not winning an election...
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Originally Posted by peanut View Post
Yep, which is explained by this...
Is that 2nd quote from the same part of the News Quiz as Hugh's quote. Hugo Rifkind's entire rant from which Hugh quoted is very similar to it.
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