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adzii_nufc · 13-02-2017, 18:01

A world of confusion and grey areas. No one can really make a judgement then to be fair because it's impossible to predict where this will go.

Inexperienced of course. The maximum experience he could have is 2 years.

I often speak with an Aegis trainer and we both share the same conclusion though but it's still not the right answer. It's a factor though. It's whether it was absolutely necessary to take him to the ground. Bare in mind both Aegis and the SIA themselves deem grounding someone as dangerous and an absolute last resort that shouldn't be carried out without the relevant training. That's not the law though, the law is about proving that any force used was justifiable. If he holds the DS Licence he'd have taken part in mandatory Physical Intervention training. If its a standard SG Licence then he's had no in house training. So basically the SIA themselves will go against him.

There's going to be so many factors in this for what's an accident. Doesn't work that way in a court though.

Simply don't know how this will go. I know which way it should go, we all do.

Similar story to the above. When I had my first role as an SD or theft prevention, we had a policy of never chasing thieves. Merely tag them with spray, radio the council CCTV lads and the police would take care of it. Quite a few years ago for me though.

Doors and Close protection work is an entirely different field though.

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adzii_nufc Rafalution Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35 Posts: 5,338	Re: Security guard, 20, is arrested after Asda shoplifter he tackled was killed A world of confusion and grey areas. No one can really make a judgement then to be fair because it's impossible to predict where this will go. Inexperienced of course. The maximum experience he could have is 2 years. I often speak with an Aegis trainer and we both share the same conclusion though but it's still not the right answer. It's a factor though. It's whether it was absolutely necessary to take him to the ground. Bare in mind both Aegis and the SIA themselves deem grounding someone as dangerous and an absolute last resort that shouldn't be carried out without the relevant training. That's not the law though, the law is about proving that any force used was justifiable. If he holds the DS Licence he'd have taken part in mandatory Physical Intervention training. If its a standard SG Licence then he's had no in house training. So basically the SIA themselves will go against him. There's going to be so many factors in this for what's an accident. Doesn't work that way in a court though. Simply don't know how this will go. I know which way it should go, we all do. Similar story to the above. When I had my first role as an SD or theft prevention, we had a policy of never chasing thieves. Merely tag them with spray, radio the council CCTV lads and the police would take care of it. Quite a few years ago for me though. Doors and Close protection work is an entirely different field though. __________________ All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach. Last edited by adzii_nufc; 13-02-2017 at 18:06.