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Old 29-01-2017, 19:29   #1788
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Re: US Election 2016

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Yes. We have to be pragmatic and realistic. I don't think we can place absolute morality above all else which is why I am not suggesting we can ban him outright. But here our own citizens are banned from visiting, some even from returning home because they were born in the wrong place. Mo Farah, a man we made a a British knight, is banned because he was born in Somila. A Tory MP, whose name I cannot spell and I'm on my phone, is banned.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. This isn't normal. We're not talking about immigration controls here. We're talking about pure racism and discrimination.

So he can come because he is President of the United States and that's how it goes. But he doesn't get the honour, the pomp and circumstance, of a state visit. He is not a friend of who we are.

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Quite.

Advocating the murder of others, however bad they are, is both sick and incompatible with liberal democracy. Even if you take out the immorality of it it achieves nothing.

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Come to think of it it's also borderline illegal. I don't know what she actually said and am on my phone but is braitbart isn't lying (quite possible) than it's illegal to call for the assassination of people.
In the real world we have to do business with people we don't like. The Chinese would be a good example - our homes are full of their gadgets in spite of the inconvenient facts. Is anyone seriously claiming their human rights and other abuses are less serious than Trump's?
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