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Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Damien
Which is understandable if it wasn't for the fact that we have our own MPs banned and citizens if they're born in one of those places. That has to stop. We have a duty to our citizens first.
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It was in the news yesterday that cases are being dealt with, on a case by case basis. I am sure if Mo Farah or the Tory MP that is said to run in to problems, or whoever else has a residence in the US will be admitted as the exception, it does say that if people have bothered to read the Executive Order.
I've seen a lot of hypocrisy this weekend and I cannot be bothered to explain it, so I'll just leave these here:-
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There has been hysterical media condemnation of Donald Trump's decision to refuse visas to travellers from seven mainly Muslim countries, including Iraq, for the next 90 days.
But why was the Left silent when the Obama administration refused to issue visas to Iraqis for six months?
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky -- who later admitted in court that they'd attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq -- prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists' fingerprints...
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.
Journalists are also questioning Trump's choice of seven countries from which immigration and visits will be suspended for 90 days, while vetting procedures are checked. Some journalists suggest Trump is corrupt - being driven by vested interests:
Meanwhile, no visas will be issued for 90 days to migrants or visitors from seven mainly Muslim countries: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen...
Still, some Muslim countries were spared from Mr Trump’s blacklist, even though they have clear ties to terrorism.
According to the New York Daily News, Mr Trump doesn’t hold any business interests in any of the countries on the list, but holds major stakes in several of those excluded from it, records show.
But, once again, the same seven countries were singled out by President Barack Obama's administration for special security precautions. The choice was his, not Trump's, and no one in the media complained:
The President Obama Department of Homeland Security already targeted those seven listed countries for the past several years as nations of concern.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/an...e3a4d1e5ded377
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In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.” It noted “the three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.” It was the US policy under Obama to restrict and target people “who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).”
And the media knew this back in May 2016 when some civil rights groups complained about it. “These restrictions have provoked an outcry from the Iranian-American community, as well as Arab-American and civil-liberties groups, who say the restrictions on dual nationals and certain travelers are discriminatory and could be imposed against American dual nationals.”
It was signed into law on December 18, 2015, as part of the Omnibus Appropriations Act of FY2016.
So there was a Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it.
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https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28...wont-tell-you/
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