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**Damien** · 28-12-2016, 19:31

How much fraud is actually there? I am not convinced this is a massive issue. I know it can be as we saw in Tower Hamlets but isolated incidents aren't evidence of it being a widespread problem. In that case it was postal voting anyway which seems to be more of a problem than in-person voting where I believe our system is already resilient.

After all it's risky to vote in person as someone else and also hard to scale. Sure you could do it but then that's one person, you probably can't do it in the same voting station so you would need to know the details of another person in another voting district and also be sure they haven't or won't vote lest they figure something is up. So maybe you get many people to vote as someone else but as well as the risk that one of them gets caught you have the additional risk one of them will reveal their plans to others or the police.

If you had a ring of 50 people who each voted three times in different districts posing as voters they knew would not vote then you've still only changed 150 votes. And that would be incredibly hard to pull off anyway!

So what evidence is there of such systematic fraud?

28-12-2016, 19:31	#45
Damien Remoaner Cable Forum Mod Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 32,946	Re: Voters will have to show ID How much fraud is actually there? I am not convinced this is a massive issue. I know it can be as we saw in Tower Hamlets but isolated incidents aren't evidence of it being a widespread problem. In that case it was postal voting anyway which seems to be more of a problem than in-person voting where I believe our system is already resilient. After all it's risky to vote in person as someone else and also hard to scale. Sure you could do it but then that's one person, you probably can't do it in the same voting station so you would need to know the details of another person in another voting district and also be sure they haven't or won't vote lest they figure something is up. So maybe you get many people to vote as someone else but as well as the risk that one of them gets caught you have the additional risk one of them will reveal their plans to others or the police. If you had a ring of 50 people who each voted three times in different districts posing as voters they knew would not vote then you've still only changed 150 votes. And that would be incredibly hard to pull off anyway! So what evidence is there of such systematic fraud?