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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
It is a benefit pip.
Like working age benefits e.g. there is contribution based factors e.g. contribution based JSA and contribution based ESA are both classed as benefits, yet they can only be claimed by someone who has paid enough national insurance.
I think the only reason you two have an issue with it been called a benefit is because its for a different set of people "pensioners".
Either pensions are a benefit, or JSA and ESA are also not benefits. You cannot have it both ways.
Incidentally contribution based working age benefits are actually cash flow positive so are viable, pensions however are not and require subsidy from working age budgets hence the squeeze been put on them.
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For the older generations the pension has always been seen as a reward for working and contributing to society,something you earned ,when i was young and when my dad was working it was shameful to claim benefits for any length of time or even at all,nowadays it seems that claiming out of work benefits is quite normal and part of being an adult .It doesn't surprise me that the younger generation see the state pension as a benefit