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Old 17-10-2016, 22:01   #22
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Re: Russia Today bank accounts 'frozen in UK'

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There has been many more revelations Damien, I am sure you can look them up, but don't let this put a dent in those rose tinted specs you have regarding HC, quite frankly you're as bad as the US mainstream media with your ignorance.
I think it's unfair to call me ignorant. In another thread you refused to read links that were given to you to rebut some of the arguments you made but I didn't respond in such a fashion.

Anyway, the mainstream media has been covering the e-mails.

Here is a live blog of them from Politico: http://www.politico.com/live-blog-up...kileaks-000011

Here is the NYTimes reporting on one of her bank speeches where she said she would support covert action in Syria if it yielded results: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/17/us...ipt-shows.html

Here is the story, again from NYTimes, about the Qatari donation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/us...oundation.html

Here is the story, from CNN, about the town halls questions being 'leaked':
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/11/medi...eaks-question/
and the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.8f799a2847cb

These were not hidden stories. They've been covered by the 'mainsteam media' and I've read them because they're not hard to miss. Just because some website says they're not being covered doesn't mean it isn't true.

What is true is that the full e-mails do not match the headlines often given to them by Trump supporters.

Yes. Clinton seems to have been given at least one question in advance about the death penalty. It's bad and as the Washington Post says they shouldn't allow contributors associated with a campaign too close to the news production.

Yes Qatar offered $1 million for 5 minutes of Bill Clinton's time. Presumably to lobby for something. However it was for their foundation, not Clinton's personal bank account. We also have no idea if the offer was taken up. We do know however that Qatar are donators to the foundation anyway so this $1 million either came or didn't, but they would have donated elsewhere.

The biggest problem with the Foundation is the suggestion that donations were made in return for time with President Clinton. Which isn't going to cause a fuss. Or Hillary Clinton, which would. The latter would be worse.

All of these e-mails add up (so far) to Clinton being dodgy and political. She is open is lobbyists and politically calculating. It is however not going to be a surprise for anyone. I think it would have been a bigger deal had they not been released days after the video of Trump came out. You can thank our friend in the embassy for that. There is no smoking gun yet though, these are reaffirm what people don't like about Clinton but they don't have any big surprises or confirm some of the wilder theories.

However if that's what makes her unsuitable for office then, in addition to the Wikileaks e-mails, the mainstream media is a good source for looking at Trump as well. Since the Washington Post broke the story a while back that Trump used money from his charity to settle personal legal cases. That would actually be illegal. Why does that not disqualify 'crooked' Donald Trump?

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