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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute
I'm going out on a limb and say actually he does
And certainly more than boris Johnson
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Thank you but I can't claim to be an expert, I just read things and don't ignore them because they don't fit with my own opinions. This puts me at odds with huge swathes of the Conservative party.
I appear to need to make this clear to a poster; when I said I had no intention of reading further output from you I did mean it.
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To be honest, though, I suspect Theresa May does know more about this stuff than me. She just doesn't care as she'd rather court the UKIP vote than serve the country or even obey the instruction of the British people.
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On what the government should prioritise when negotiating Brexit:
Reducing migration: 39%
Favourable trade deals: 49%
(via ComRes)
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Brexit means Brexit means whatever will win the Conservative Party the most votes, regardless of whether or not the nation has had second thoughts to the point where remain would
win a referendum now some of the impacts have become clearer, or doesn't subscribe to the Conservative view that immigration is the red line.
The patriotic thing to do, as opposed to the Mail and Express's demands to just accept it all, is to react with anger and disgust at the government throwing the country under a bus to win votes. The cynical, careless politicking during the Conservative Party conference has utterly screwed up any chances of our finding a mutually beneficial deal with the European Union as we leave, and the bribery of Nissan is ridiculous given a major part of the case to leave was to take back control of our finances. Rather than giving money to the EU we're apparently going to be handing money directly to multinationals to bribe them into continuing to employ people. Is this supposed to be a better deal than remaining? Being held hostage by multinational corporations whose demands will never end?
A bunch of people voted with a 'soft Brexit' in mind. They are rapidly learning that they are going to be disappointed. Many more people voted because they believed the pile of BS that Boris Johnson and others sold them. They are increasingly learning that they are going to be disappointed. Post-Brexit people are having sunshine blown up their hindmost by David Davis, and while he and others say one thing the actions of the government show beyond any shadow of a doubt that they are lying.
I have absolutely no interest in stopping Brexit. If it works out well I will be delighted and we'll all win. If it goes completely pear shaped UKIP will be devastated, the Conservative Party will take a pounding and the UK may actually learn some humility and stop believing the jingoistic nonsense the Mail, Express and Three Brexiteers feed us.
We're a great country, one with an amazing history, a compassionate nature, a strong sense of moral justice and an enviable national identity. We are way better than the Britain portrayed recently and I very much hope we prove it.