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Old 13-10-2016, 17:20   #1963
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
That's part of the problem though - it's the 'talk' of this, that, or the other which is stirring everyone up, frequently with no real basis. What assurances can be given on anything substantial before negotiations have been opened without affecting our negotiating position at the same time? What assurances (or scare stories for that matter) do we get prior to elections and how often do they actually materialise? If we want to get the best deal out of Brexit we need to start the process with a strong hand having not a) already having divulged what we will be prepared to accept or b) already talked our economy down to the point where we've put the other side at a distinct advantage due to our perceived desperation.

I don't think anyone can seriously doubt that the best way to come out of any negotiation on top is to start from a position of strength rather than weakness due to a largely self-induced currency 'crisis'. Sterling aside, our economy has been performing better than the EU for some time which ought to be enhancing our position but that's all been undone, for now at least, by all the focus on Sterling and subsequent jitters.
I think the sterling 'crisis' is precisely because we have no idea about the deal. I don't think that could be helped either way. Markets don't like uncertainty and that's what we have. Even if all Remainers went 'hoorah for Brexit!' the certainty would exist.

I agree May can't give away everything but there was no need for a lot of the lines being drawn at that conference. I also think she can't be given a blank cheque but either way she does actually have it. Since it's not a Parliamentary decision she can do whatever deal she wants. If Parliament could veto a deal when that would undermine her but it doesn't.

(maybe that's her plan? then after the deal is done, surprise vote?)

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
I simply do not agree ,i think your vision of a Brexit utopia full of unbiased experts refusing to commit ,always stating the worst case scenario instead of stating what is possible and working towards that, is the worst thing that can happen
I don't want experts to 'commit' I want them to give advice. I don't want them to give the worst or best case scenario, I want to know both and the likelihood of them.
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