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Originally Posted by Osem

Yup, it's not as though the EU is currently a model for success is it. It's lurched from groteseque wine lakes and butter mountains to appalling austerity, huge unemployment, social unrest, out of control migration and serious cross border antagonism all exacerbated by institutionalised dogma, dithering and in-fighting along the way.

I'd have some sympathy with the remain standpoint if the EU was actually working but it's never been more divided IMHO and what lies ahead doesn't look good to me. Why would anyone want to be tethered to all that?

I think a lot of remainers are in denial about just how bad things are over there when the constant flow of EU migrants into the UK ought to suggest the clear answer. The EU isn't what it could and should have been. It clearly isn't capable of reform and therefore, regretfully, we need to get out and have made the right decision.

And that's the EU's fault because........