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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Because in the EU we have no ultimate control over our affairs. Have you forgotten how little Cameron managed to extract from the EU when he went over there cap in hand? 
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It did indeed seem like very little. Then I spoke to a constitutional lawyer who explained to me in the context of the treaties just how much of a concession Cameron was given.
The idea we had no ultimate control over our affairs within the EU is absurd.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
The reason that it hasn't existed for decades is because of the influence of the EU and it's left wing fellow travellers.
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The EU is clearly a bit of a chimera given those on the left criticise it for being neo-conservative and corporatist.