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Old 05-10-2016, 17:23   #1843
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

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Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
The fact is it will happen like it or not. Add to that those slagging off May for saying we will be having a hard Brexit does not make our bargaining postition worse, in fact quite the opposite.

The EU exports more to us than we do to them, We will be free to source elsewhere, they will have to sell elsewhere unless they are willing to do a deal. If the EU want to write off those exports then hey-ho let them get on with it.
Even in case of a 'soft' Brexit we'd be free to source elsewhere.

While it seems some people on here are incapable of grasping this extremely simple concept I'll reiterate that membership of the Single Market as part of the European Economic Area does not mean membership of the Customs Union, so tariffs, trade policies, etc, become a UK competency.

May have some fun sourcing elsewhere though given the day after we leave we'll almost certainly have free trade agreements with no-one and can have tariff-free trade with no-one, while the EU have 53 free trade agreements they can sell through.

The export thing has been done to death but repeating yet again they are over 40% of our exports, we are 10% of theirs

So if you're fine with our writing off 40% of our exports then hey-ho let's get on with it.

You may dogmatically be desperate for a hard Brexit given you've apparently loathed the EU my entire lifetime, those of who are aren't retired or nearly retired would appreciate the opportunity to keep our jobs.

When even that huge fan of the EU Arron Banks prefers EEA membership over a hard Brexit it should give you some idea of just how extreme that view is. Bizarre that it seems to be the direction now.

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Rather than attacking the messengers, maybe it'd be more useful for some people to focus on the flawed EU ideology, political dogma, mismanagement and utter intransigence which has led the Eurozone into this crisis and shows no sign of abating. So much easier to ignore all that and resort to the usual insults though eh? Standard fare for those who can't argue their case...
Says the guy who has me on ignore because he can't argue his case. Keep rolling with that virtue signalling.

Many of those who wanted to remain in the EU entirely appreciated it had major issues and wanted to try and resolve them from within. That well known Neocon Yanis Varoufakis gave a talk about it. I loathed and continue to loathe the manner in which they treated Greece and think they have a whole collection of things they have done wrong, Merkel's handling of refugees being one.

I appreciate far easier to just go with the black and white view Brexiteers good, 'Remoaners' bad though.

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