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Originally Posted by Osem
Well that's the way to negotiate effectively isn't it. Bit like Corbyn telling the world he'd never use our nuclear deterrent...
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Corbyn's seat could be abolished:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37342828
In the past I'd have expected howls of outrage to the effect that it's all a nasty Tory plot against the Labour 'messiah' but I have a feeling they'll be delighted to have Corbyn 'running' the circus for as long as possible. 
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Iirc he's seat is being amalgamated with diane abbot's and another female labour mps seat, again iirc if a female labour mp stands down an all female shortlist is required to replace her, bit more bad luck for jeremy if that's so
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Just as well no-one on here has done that, at least that I've read for a while.
The experience thing is getting boring, too. Very few of us were actually qualified to make an educated decision on this, regardless of 'experience'. I certainly wasn't. For better or worse it's been a while since many of us blindly deferred to those older and more 'experienced'.
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So here's your 'experience'.
Wonder who you're planning on blaming for the problems when migration is lower again? Perhaps you should look more closely at the failure to build adequate numbers of houses when 300,000 a year was quite doable in the past, or not properly funding the health service in the face of an ageing population. Many of the issues your kids are facing are nothing to do with immigrants and everything to do with the policies adopted by Conservatives and, then, to a lesser but still present extent, Labour.
Our immigration rate is way lower than other places, including some with the points based immigration so craved by many. They manage. We have grossly mismanaged as a country.
You're neither a git or a nasty piece of work, although the comment about people 'looking to have a better life handed on a plate to them' isn't exactly pleasant, but the blame for the issues your kids are facing, and I fear for my own also, belongs elsewhere.
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Indeed most of what was said about the EU was more to do with successive government's and their policies. I remember, well I don't, I've heard about the halcyon days when labour and conservative government's used to try and out do each other with social housing building programmes