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Old 26-08-2016, 16:16   #1665
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Re: Unstoppable migration?

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
I don't know anyone who has a problem with managed migration to attract people with something to offer and skills we need. We don't have that, however, we have unmanaged migration in which anyone from the EU can come here pretty much regardless of what they have to offer. Whichever way you look at that it's not good. It adds significantly to the population and the burden thereof whilst undercutting those in the lower paid jobs which are in most competition. That might just be why BigCorp tends to be in favour of it and was largely anti-Brexit.
What we don't have though is crystal clear idea of what the impact is. The first Full Fact link you provided did state that if there is an impact then it's one which is dwarfed by other factors.

It's similar to that Rowntree report that was linked here last week about the impact of migration on wages which did find there was an impact but one which was considerably smaller than the impact felt by even minor changes to the growth or recession of the wider economy.

If we say there is a negative impact on the NHS due to EU migration, which isn't entirely clear, then it's one which would be dwarfed by the impact oftype 2 diabetes for example.

We focus a lot of immigration but it may be that the focus on it is disproportionate to the impact it actually has relative to other issues.

However it may also be the case that looking at this in a nationwide context and via statistics overlooks the impact in specific communities. It may well be that in terms of the service has a whole immigration is fine but that doesn't help a (hypothetical) hospital in Bradford which is under strain. In that case I would say we've failed to properly manage the immigration we have and the Government doesn't react fast enough to localised problems such as that.
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