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Originally Posted by Taf
IMO "moderate" Roma were in the first wave of (legal) immigrants when the G8 countries were allowed to access the EU. After that initial group the chancers started to flood in. They were always here in some numbers of course. All over Europe. Crime stats from many western EU countries show their presence by the levels of petty crimes they were involved in.
Most of the "moderates" I personally know have settled and tried in some part to integrate. But not totally. Their poor schooling back home shows up in those who have no access to education in the UK. So the parents lack English skills, whilst their younger children seem to doing well. I know a few that arrived as teenagers that are in and out of prison for petty crimes as well as drugs offences. But many of the teenagers that grew up here are attending college, with 3 I know in Uni (but living at home).
A few families are very afraid of the newer arrivals. Crime appears to be their only method of this group of providing for their families (who arrived with them or remain back home) until they qualify for benefits. And if they fall on bad times, they descend upon those earning a legal income like locusts. And not just appearing and eating and drinking until sated, they also demand cash, or items they can sell for cash.
Refuse, and the violence starts. Very bad violence. I know a few who have been hospitalised. I took one to hospital myself.
They were quite well spread across this city, but have slowly gravitated together, often sniffing-out low rent areas. But another group has done the same. Kurds of all nations. And they don't get on at all. At any age.
If May uses BREXIT to allow many to stay, we will have yet another powder keg under us just waiting to be ignited.
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The saddest thing of all is that this sort of thing was as inevitable as it was predictable and ought to have been given far more consideration (if indeed any was ever given) before the floodgates were opened to one and all. Very many of those poorer countries with a sizeable Roma 'problem' couldn't wait to join the club, collect their Euro-payouts and get rid of their Roma problem at the same time. They even encouraged Roma to leave for pastures new. Sadly those who made the decisions were and still are totally out of touch, but then they've always made sure they and theirs are very nicely insulated against the fallout. Meanwhile, poor, desperate and disadvantaged people are being set against eachother and all manner of foreign criminals and undesirables have seized the opportunity to ply their trade in a country which offers relatively easy pickings in all sorts of ways.
Make no mistake, the vast majority will be allowed to stay because there isn't the political will to do something about it and I fully agree that big trouble lies ahead both here and in countries like Italy, Germany, France, Greece etc. which are facing even worse problems. The professional do-gooders who insist on conflating refugees and migrants know full well the vast majority are economic will never be sent away but to admit that would fatally undermine their position so they continue with the deception. Unlike the situation during the Balkans conflict, we now at least have access to some numbers and they don't make very comforting reading. Really, anyone would think that our glorious leaders actually wanted to create chaos and unrest...