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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
We have a skilled manufacturing base and we can expand that but it will require the means in place to train the people to occupy the skills gaps where they appear and it shouldn't just be government funding it. There is plenty of life out there for us to establish and build trade with we have got used to being in the EU and in some ways over reliant on a market that hasn't always been in our best interests. More and more countries are approaching us for trade and that will continue.
That link to the independent means absolutely nothing hell on the day the result was announced the campaign against the vote started and despite all these claims of hordes of leave voters regretting their choice I haven't seen it the area around me or anywhere on the net. I'm not convinced plus while it's likely there are some leavers who would vote differently the same applies to some who voted remain so means nothing.
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I actually don't think we really need the single market. We can sell our services to other countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India for example. Services are not the real problem nor is manufacturing, it's training our own to do same.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Oh, OK then...
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Other Countries like China make raw materials and it would probably work out cheaper in the long run to import from there than the EU as the materials would be cheaper anyway.
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TheDaddy said: You are funny, a million plus people regretting their vote means nothing and if you listened to the radio pre and post vote you'd know exactly how ignorant a lot of people were on the day, in your area or not.
These people expressing regret are nervous of what may or may not happen. I, for one, have no regrets of my vote to leave because myself and others saw what was coming in 1975 and voted out feel vindicated. We also knew a leave vote had it's potential problems because we have become far too dependent on the EU and were losing the ability to think for ourselves and make our own decisions. This is where the fear of a leave vote comes in. Can we survive untied from Mother EU's apron strings? Of course we can. Countries are queuing up to trade with the UK and any loses incurred by leaving the EU will easily be recouped by trading with these countries. We do NOT need the single market, we never needed it. We were doing well without it until the Unions tried to hold the country to ransom and we lost a lot of trade. Had that not happened, we would not have needed it.
I personally do not know anyone who regrets voting leave and they, like myself, say we should never have joined in the first place.
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So Lloyds are shedding another 3000 jobs and closing 200 branches and the nice thing about it is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the vote to leave the EU. It leads me to believe that these Companies who threatened job losses should we vote to leave were going to shed jobs anyway and were looking for something to blame it on other than their own incompetence or the low, and possible lowering, of interest rates.
Why worry about our Services industry? Are the EU countries the only ones we can sell them to? I think not. I'm sure China and India for example would be only too happy to buy them.
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Originally Posted by martyh
Calm down dear  ,i think this was posted a few pages back and it wasn't you that said there was no way back ,the EU said there was no way back once triggered ,you and everyone else was simply repeating what they said
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There where a lot of ignorant prats voting ,a few on here using the referendum as a protest vote to start with
It would be interesting to have an up to date poll to see how many would vote differently now things have settled down .Immediately after the vote the FTSE was nose diving and the media where predicting Armageddon ,now the public realise that nothing has actually changed and is not likely to for some time they might well poll differently to the one you link to .
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There is always a way back but it would be the biggest mistake we could ever make. We would have to accept the Euro, Schengen and full FoM to name but 3 things but there Is a way back.
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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
There where a lot of ignorant prats voting ,a few on here using the referendum as a protest vote to start with
It would be interesting to have an up to date poll to see how many would vote differently now things have settled down .Immediately after the vote the FTSE was nose diving and the media where predicting Armageddon ,now the public realise that nothing has actually changed and is not likely to for some time they might well poll differently to the one you link to .
A protest against what? Cameron? The Tory Government? You do that through the ballot box. I've never understood this statement of using the referendum as a protest vote. It's a hell of a risk to take especially if you believe we should remain in the EU, surely?