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Originally Posted by martyh
Only because the EU say it is ,they could just as easily say that all EU rights for citizens end when A50 is triggered ,all it takes is political will .The only reason we have to wait the 2 years is because that was the decision made when A50 was formulated,they could have just as easily ended EU citizen rights when A50 is triggered ,it hasn't been tried yet and will no doubt be subject to change when we have finished exiting.
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The Treaty of Lisbon that we agreed to says it's illegal, not the EU.
We probably don't want to get things off on that kind of foot. A smooth, amicable break-up would be best.
Going back on treaties doesn't inspire confidence in others that we're a reliable partner.
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Originally Posted by nomadking
University pf Salford study from 2013.
That group well-known for being right wing. 
They aren't the sort who live in caravans or even bungalows, so where are they all living?
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I know, let's pick on one specific group of EU migrants and tar all of them with that same brush. Let's just stop taking in migrants of any description. Some of them are bound to be 'dross'.
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Originally Posted by martyh
Have to agree ,when was the last time we heard of someone leaving the UK to claim benefits in Boznia .Whichever way you look at it there is a problem of migrants getting benefits in this country without ever contributing .The number doesn't matter ,it could be 2,000 or 200,000 annually it is wrong and needs to stop .Our own 'lazy' non workers are getting hammered from every angle by the benefits system so why should migrants be any different
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Well, yes. Our welfare system is largely non-contributory. Change the system the problem goes away. Not sure about migrants being any different - they are subject to the same or stricter welfare rules than natives.
On the whole EU migrants take less out-of-work welfare than natives and more in-work welfare due to working for lower pay, however we had agreement to refuse in-work welfare to EU migrants for a time. That agreement expired with the referendum result.
As with so many other things the root of this issue is our own system. I would be a huge advocate of a more contributory welfare system, it would solve many problems, but rather than grasp that nettle it's been easier to blame migrants.