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Old 11-07-2016, 16:11   #198
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Re: [Updated] Theresa May set to become PM

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
The referendum has put politics into the gutter. The level of dishonesty used to win that referendum was unprecedented in my lifetime, and the fallout and recriminations from it have been ghastly.
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We're all quite used to hyperbole and bending of truth, there was plenty of that from both sides. We also received a constant stream of out and out bull poop from both sides though far more from one than the other, and it worked. That isn't liberation it's just bull poop.

change the tune

We need to ensure they reflect the best way forward for the country. We are a representative democracy. Parliament are sovereign, always have been incidentally regardless of the lies we were told, and I believed, and it's their job to deliver the best possible result.

If we ran the country based on mob rule it'd be a disaster.

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boooooring
Just FYI Cameron's deal was actually a lot better than it at first appeared, regardless of the lies we were all told.

We do need people to do what they can. They don't have a strong hand so negotiating skills will be absolutely vital.

It should be mentioned that all that will be discussed for the 2 years are the terms of our exit from the EU. It's extremely likely that we won't even finish that negotiation let alone secure a deal for our relationship post-leaving. That will take a decade or more if we actually try to secure one.
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I think a lot of people are expecting us to give Article 50 and come away within 2 years having negotiated a great trade deal. Not happening. There is an incredible amount of work that needs to be done in that 2 years, which is why the sane people in Parliament aren't in a hurry.

In the interim the best us grunts can do is get heads down and as we were
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