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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
I'm not on about the EU when I talk of making up I'm talking about the people of this country there is a divide that needs healing much as it can as well as the EU negotiations. Leave won the vote and whoever becomes the next pm will follow the result so we're leaving, a smart but acceptable political leader is the requirement best for the UK now and Gove isn't that politician. Stabbing two friends in the back is not the quality that causes others to be open and confident in any assurances given a major part of any deal is that the deal will be respected by both could you honestly deal with Gove and not worry he'd go back on any agreement if he felt it was better for him.
May has proven to be a reliable and very competent politician and after what happened with Cameron and that deal he came back with in February no politician will make that mistake again. End of the day it's irrelevant Gove might have been clever in clearing opposition but he was stupid in being so obvious in what he did and has alienated too many fellow conservatives to become the leader.
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We could argue on but it would be divisive

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We have undergone cataclysmic change in these past couple of weeks. There are big decisions ahead. The new PM will not be some kind of agony uncle reconciling the differences of quarrelling relatives. He will be dealing with a powerful organisation that is hurt and smarting. It is no place for the reliable and humdrum, it is a place for the brash and confident or we will get walked over.
You voted leave and yet you are noticeably backing away from the ball you (we) have started rolling. It's no time to run for the shelter of Mrs Grey-Remainer. If you wanted more of the same you should have voted for Remain. Now is the time to see this thing through.
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Originally Posted by Damien
But we're talking being able to do basic political business. Politics does require some trust. If he has alienated his MPs he won't make a Tory Member vote.
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I feel he is skilful enough to overcome the doubters although it does seem his chance may be slipping away. Once again, the national interest is second fiddle to internal party politics. A mistake we will regret very soon imho.