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Originally Posted by Damien
The problem is he has to win support of his MPs before he gets to be put before the members.
Nothing wrong with personal ambition but it's the way he did it which seems to have alienated a lot of his colleagues. We say this is politics but politics requires some trust to function.
If he had decided to run against Boris in the aftermath of the vote then they would deem that fair, even Boris' perceived calculated approach to support Leave was deemed fair. However making yourself campaign manager for a rival and planning everything to cause maximum destruction to that rival seems to be beyond what would be considered 'fair game' in the dark arts of politics. It's ruthlessly dishonest. It's a political manoeuvre that's impossible to defend against and if commonplace would destroy any ability for politics to function if the people running your campaign were out to screw you.
Tory MPs might be asking how can they trust him when Cameron was a close friend and he did him in only for him to be given a position of trust from Boris which he promptly used to screw him over too.
If you were offered a job in cabinet in return for your support how would you know he wouldn't stab you in the back the moment he won?
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I don't think we should be too British about this - our famous sense of fair play will not serve us well in negotiations within the den of iniquity that is Europe.
All poiticians are on notice now more than ever that if you fail to serve the people in the way that the people expect, you will soon feel the weight of a hefty boot removing you from No 10.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
A brexiter candidate is too divisive we need someone that will carry out the democratic will of the people and can mend fences on the mending fences alone Gove is clearly not the one. If he had been upfront about things yep I'd support him but the duplicitous way he has behaved and acted absolutely rules him out, you cannot just say "it's politics" and anything becomes ok the leader of this country has to be someone with credibility and someone people can feel will do what they say.
I voted leave as I thought that was the best thing for the UK and I don't need to have someone from the leave campaign as leader I just need a leader I can trust much as we can trust any politician and one I believe will further the national interest not their own.
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Why is a Brexiteer divisive? Why isn't a Remainer divisive too?
This isn't about making up with anyone, it's about a divorce and experience tells us that these things can get messy.
Mr Gove has taken his chance by acting incisively at exactly the right time. Political manoeuvre is about strategy and being upfront doesn't fit. Mr Gove is a sharp cookie and having him in our corner will serve the national interest far more effectively than someone who didn't even have the vision of 17.4 million people. Besides, I still think there's more to this Boris business than meets the eye.
It will all unfold soon.