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ntluser · 01-07-2016, 10:12

It's a pity that the EU cannot see that we have a wonderful opportunity here to reform the EU in a positive way for all countries and citizens in the EU.

Cameron's strategy of getting a better deal for just the UK makes us appear selfish and uncaring.

It would have been better to have tapped into the common problems that the EU share and come up with a group solution.

Instead Tusk gave us an unacceptable deal which Cameron could not sell to the UK public, with the EU left thinking that it was a fair deal.

Voters in the UK voted differently because each of us has a different experience of the EU and therefore we made our decision for different reasons.

As it turns out more of us appear to have more reasons to leave but it could easily have gone the other way if the missing 28% who did not vote had made their vote.

I believe if the EU is willing to accept reform for all of us and is more flexible for all of us ( and by that I mean all EU countries and all citizens) we could create an EU that 100% would want to stay in.

The EU does not need political union as we have national governments quite capable of making decisions and laws which have a common EU interest and we do not need a European army because we have NATO who have successfully protected us as best they can since 1945 and still do. If anything, we need better ways of discussing and resolving differences that do not require bullets and bombs.

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ntluser cf.mega poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Age: 78 Services: Virgin Media XL Telephone,TV with Tivo box & Superhub3 upto 150Mb Broadband, Sky World, & Freeview+ Posts: 1,901	Re: Post-Brexit Thread It's a pity that the EU cannot see that we have a wonderful opportunity here to reform the EU in a positive way for all countries and citizens in the EU. Cameron's strategy of getting a better deal for just the UK makes us appear selfish and uncaring. It would have been better to have tapped into the common problems that the EU share and come up with a group solution. Instead Tusk gave us an unacceptable deal which Cameron could not sell to the UK public, with the EU left thinking that it was a fair deal. Voters in the UK voted differently because each of us has a different experience of the EU and therefore we made our decision for different reasons. As it turns out more of us appear to have more reasons to leave but it could easily have gone the other way if the missing 28% who did not vote had made their vote. I believe if the EU is willing to accept reform for all of us and is more flexible for all of us ( and by that I mean all EU countries and all citizens) we could create an EU that 100% would want to stay in. The EU does not need political union as we have national governments quite capable of making decisions and laws which have a common EU interest and we do not need a European army because we have NATO who have successfully protected us as best they can since 1945 and still do. If anything, we need better ways of discussing and resolving differences that do not require bullets and bombs. Last edited by ntluser; 01-07-2016 at 10:20.