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Old 29-06-2016, 14:36   #742
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
And in the real world where we don't get everything we want...

The rest of your post is a scary scenario. That'd be a massive expansion of the state that we can't afford.
Not sure, who you are replying to, but if it's me then I should say I do understand that we won't get everything we want but we might get more if we accept freedom of movement and demonstrate practically to Europe that we are not a nation of racists and that we are intending to continue to trade with them.

As for the other points mentioned, this is not something that would be implemented or fixed overnight but we can't continue to carry 5% of the population in the current financial environment.

Any changes would be gradual over a period of time because as you said we haven't the finances to do this all in one go but we do need to make a start.

I remember seeing a TV programme about the young unemployed where they followed 5 young people one of whom stated that he was quite happy to receive his job seekers allowance because it meant that, as he was living at home, he could go out boozing every night with his friends and never have to work.

I also remember another TV programme which reported on the closure of Remploy and the emotional impact it had on the employees most of whom had special needs. It resonated with me as my sister has Down's syndrome.

Things do have to change but it will be by a process of gradual evolution not rapid revolution.

If the French get their way it may well be the other way round.

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Isn't it odd how not that long ago folks were banging on about how great it'd be if the banks and big fat corporations took their business and 'immorality' elsewhere yet now people are trembling at the very prospect that they 'might'. Big companies 'threatening' to move in order to influence policy isn't new, it's what they do to get the best deal for themselves and people panicking prematurely about it doesn't work in our favour it works in theirs. Some people really do need to get a grip of what's going on here and calm down a little... well a lot actually, it's pathetic.
Agreed. A period of calm reflection is required.
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