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Originally Posted by Gavin78
DC has made the UK a laughing stock to the world and after this vote the world will see us as a lesser people in the grand scheme of things no matter the outcome
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He's made himself look inept and duplicitous. From the point at which he came back from his EU 'negotiations' with sweet FA, he's basically gone back on what he said and changed tack from 'the UK could thrive outside the EU' to 'the UK will implode if we leave'.
It's been a thoroughly disingenuous campaign on his behalf and I expected far more than that. Just goes to show how wrong you can be eh but then, the global forces lined up to push us to stay are powerful and politicians always like to be on the winning side even if it means lying through their teeth. There'll be plenty of jobs for them within the old boys network.
The sight of Obama telling the UK we'd be at the back of the queue tells you all you need to know about how the US views the UK. It ought to be a lesson learned for the next time the Americans come looking for us to support them. Given the economic world we live in it's no surprise to me that other countries with whom we compete might gives us the advice that's best for them and not necessarily us...
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Originally Posted by RBMark
Would the NHS have a long term future is we vote remain?
I don't see how the NHS could survive with a remain vote. How can you have only 1 member "state" with a free health care system. Wouldn't that be like launching a NHS style free health care system in lets say Florida but the rest of America has a pay as you go/ private insurance system?
Surely the entire USA would just move or try to move to Florida for the free health care?
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Don't worry because, as you know, people can't abuse the NHS. It never happens. It's all lies made up by the tabloid press and the various whistle-blowers who've exposed the level of the abuse are all in the pay of nasty Nigel Farage. Tell me who on Earth would travel to the UK just to get free maternity treatment, dialysis or whatever? It's simply not credible and those who do have to use the system but aren't entitled to free care always have to pay for it. The mechanisms for ensuring that are just as robust as those in place to 'force' illegal migrants who those EU migrants who can't find work in the UK go back home. I really don't know what anyone's worrying about - it's not as though we have a huge problem deporting illegals is it. Not as though the NHS and our various welfare services can't cope at all is it. Not as though there are local authorities the length of the UK who can't house everyone is it. By this time next year, on current trends, the equivalent of the entire population of Iceland will come to the UK but an extra million people every 3 years is not a problem at all, we'll just build the homes, schools, roads etc. that are required on all the free land we have just waiting to be developed. It won't affect the environment either because they'll all be given bikes to travel everywhere and they won't add to our growing elderly population in time because they'll never grow old....
