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Originally Posted by Gavin78

Well it happens. An example we have had some patients that come from the czech they just stepped off a plane and did the rounds around the UK. they turned up on our ward for treatment and after an investigation we were told that day we couldn't treat them.

What happened 2 days later they came back and we were told we had to treat them. they stayed with us for about 2 months then went back home again.

6 months later we heard they were back in London but haven't heard from them up here.

Same again coming from the EU same results had to treat them then they went away we had to keep their space open for 2 months and they never came back had to give their spot away to another patient. then what after about 4 months they just turned up one day so we were told to treat them.

turns out their "tesio line" for treatment wasn't working and in their country they had to pay for a new one costing about £1,500 so what happened good old NHS paid for it.

They stayed with us for about 2 months then went back home again.

3 months later they came back this time they actually brought someone back with them they were friends in their home country and the guy couldn't even speak any english. but he also had renal failure.

What was the end result the Matron was on our ward that day after some meetings with her and the top brass they decided to hire a translator at the cost of £150 hr and even he struggled to get the information the trust needed.

So they treated him anyway. So they end result were is this woman and this man now...they went back home again.

Here is an example of another patient we used to have Article is from 2013

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3660419.html

She came here as a student and got ill had a transplant and the article explains the rest.


So do they come here to use the NHS yes renal failure as an example is long term only a transplant can cure it and this isn't a life long guarantee some fail right away some last 7+ years and then there is follow up app anti rejection drugs.

Treatment is around 50k a year per patient per year so you tell me someone in their own country that has to pay for it themselves has this kind of money?

It happens a lot. We all know it but of course those who don't want any controls on immigration can't afford to admit it in just the same way that they continue to deny there's any negative impact of mass uncontrolled migration. The accusations of racism are their chosen means to stifle debate and they've been able to get away with it for years. They have no answers, they just try to smear people who dare to tell the truth. If it wasn't so serious it'd be truly laughable that they continue to peddle this nonsense. Voting to remain in the EU will guarantee more of the same, probably worse as migrants are shifted from one country to another to suit big business and the political leaders who all to often do their bidding. The collateral damage is the lives, neighbourhoods, jobs and services of ordinary people NOT the great and the good who've insulated themselves from all of that in the same way they always do. They like to tell us how normal they are but once inside the club, many of them soon forget all that. Labour have spent the last 6-7 years telling us all how bad our services, housing, labour market etc. are but at the same time they're telling us there should be no limit on migration. Tell me who'll be paying the price - us or them?...

Cameron made me laugh the other day when he claimed that EU migrants who can't work will have to leave the UK. What he didn't explain is exactly what the mechanism for making them leave is. Can you imagine some toothless border force turning up at their doors and taking them to the airport? I don't think so. The reality will be that we'll be stuck with those who want to stay because remaining in the UK is better than going home to nothing. FGS it takes them years to deal with people who have no right to be here at all and many of them are eventually allowed to remain...