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Re: Brexit and our government - a personal story

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Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
Leaving won't get rid of the Tories and closing our borders is really stupid.

Yeah lets be this little tiny Island all alone with a great big fence around it! No thanks!
Pah a fence, we need a wall and if he doesn't get the top job I know just the man to build it, he's a foreigner but he's okay, a clown with stupid hair, he'll do well here.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu View Post
Well said JackJone.

The biggest trouble with this forum, is that there are loads of Cameron and Osborne Lovers. That don't like people having a go.
It made me laugh when Puppet Osborne said that if we leave, the poorer will get poorer. And that he will have to rip to pieces the budgets, to close the gap in the economy.

Not being funny, but what has Cameron and Osborne been doing since they came to power. Been ripping the welfare state to bits, thousands of people made redundant due to cuts to benefits etc etc.

This Tory Government make me sick. And the good thing is that after the election, we will go to the country, for a new PM. As Cameron wont survive.

I want out, so we can take this country back. Close our Borders. And go to the Australian system.

To me IF you don't have a job, You cannot come in
You're never funny, all the times I've stuck up for you and you come up with this drivel, I'll be voting remain and despise the Tories and their ceaseless drive to make party doners richer by pretty much giving them public assets and here's another shock, we let more people in the country last year from outside the EU than in, Australian system my backside.

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.. That is why I entitled my posting 'a personal story and why I am voting Leave'! This is the issue that affects me personally. There is simply too much propaganda by the remain team.

Do you really think we would go back to the dark ages if we leave Europe? If workers rights were not respected the government in question would not be re-elected. We would still have unions in place. Apparently it is all doom and gloom if we leave Europe. My parents generation had workers rights and they seemed pretty happy pre-Europe. Everything just isn't going to stop. I am sure if you were in a similar situation, you would feel the same.

You can't get social housing, you can't get your school of choice, you can't get a doctors appointment for nearly 2 weeks, you have to wait long periods for surgery, your elderly parent is ill and has to lie in a hospital corridor, I could go on.

We need British rights. We are an island and our infrastructure can only take so much.

You mention environmental issues, the Kyoto protocol springs to mind, do you really think the UK would not have signed up if we weren't in the EU? You are basically saying that we don't have any weight in the world and we cannot make our own decisions.

Listen to the arguments by Nigel Farage. Every debate I watch encourages me more and more to vote leave. There are many valid points. The remain team have already shown themselves up by instigating personal attacks on the leave team. They continue to do so. mmm lets float down the Thames with a bunch of rich idiots on a large boat!

You mention Scotland's unemployment rates. I am Scottish. There are many more 'economic' migrants who join their already set up communities in England. Look at London, Greater Manchester, Luton, Birmingham, Peterborough etc. Scotland does not have the level of migrants England does so your point isn't really valid. Scotland also has a lower population so take jobs per capita - of course employment rates will be lower. I wish I could return to Scotland as there would be a job available for me to go to and I would receive a decent wage. I worked in another large city a couple of hours from here (and not it wasn't London) and my salary was a minimum of a third higher for the same job in Peterborough. So yes, 'economic' migrants are bringing salaries down. And who pays, we do. You do realise the low wages are subsidised by the tax payer by way of tax credits, housing benefit, child allowance etc. I thought I would reiterate that. You do realise that the spouses of service personnel for instance who are unable to claim benefits aren't detailed in unemployment figures as we are in effect invisible!

You talk of workers rights. Yes, it has its pros but it also has its cons. It is so difficult for companies to get rid of lazy or unsuitable employees. A perfect example would be government staff. My experience with the jobcentre and DWP has been atrocious, I have never had to deal with such a group of arrogant, rude, unhelpful and stupid people in all my life. They just cannot be sacked!! So they have their rights respected, what about mine? Europe doesn't come to my aid when my human rights are neglected.

On top of that political correctness has gone mad. Read the attached, this is what Europe has contributed to...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...rrectness.html

Enjoy watching Britain deteriorate if you vote remain. Turkey, Serbia, Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia WILL have free access to the UK. We will be opening the floodgates to terrorism, crime etc. You do know that Isis sells smuggled oil to Turkey and Iraqi Kurds.. do you really want to open up our borders to a country who fund ISIS. Who will come into our country,what will their intentions be? Will you put your family or next generation at risk? Yes it is your choice. I would take the risk of a little less annual leave for a safer and more prosperous Britain.

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I totally agree with you. I have a personal experience of a family member with a mental illness being driven to the point of no return by the Department of Work and Pensions. He was so stressed and I am sure this contributed to him having a heart attack and passing away at 54 years old!!i I have had to deal with them over the last few months and I am close to having a breakdown myself!! I read all these stories of people being turned down for Employment Support Allowance, disability benefits etc. and the negative impact it has had - depression, suicide and death in some cases. This government needs to go and yes we do need to take Britain back!

Remember and vote in black ink!!
That's what I hear those slack jawed yokel rednecks say all the time except it's America they want to take back obviously. I've always wondered whom they're taking it back from and what they'd do with it once they'd got it.
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