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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Stephen I spent ten years hoping the EU would abandon the federal superstate as I felt that trade and diplomacy wise the eec was a benefit but it just isn't going to happen because the problem that prevents all other solutions is that those leading the EU only see their way. If you try to suggest far less implement reform it gets shut down fast and it's back on the one course they have decided for everyone. We are the 2nd largest EU contributer and the 5th largest economy in the world and they weren't prepared to budge a mm on meaningful reform it is clear that only something like brexit may give the other member states the power to actually force reform.
A Europe of strong independent and sovereign states can be so beneficial for the world and each other and that's where I want things and I'm prepared to vote leave because I see no other way to get to a better Europe. There are a few saying "stay in and work to reform it" but none of them when asked can tell you how to get that reform because they know unless there is a shift at the top in the EU there will be no reform or change. If anyone can tell me how by staying in we will be able to reform the EU I'll listen but so far it hasn't happened even though many voting leave would change if real meaningful reform could be achieved as contrary to what remain thinks many of us in the leave camp are very pro Europe just not the way the EU is doing things.
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