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Old 11-06-2016, 11:11   #2855
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
That's unlikely, I've literally flip flopped on this for years, ten years ago I was one of the few on here arguing against the EU, then for a while I was very pro eu and now the times coming to decide I've characteristically changed my mind and side several times, at the moment I'm probably in the remain camp. I wouldn't be shocked if I didn't remain here though.
I'm broadly pro Europe and on many things I would favour closer ties, but some things have gone too far and that's why I vote Brexit.

Here are the pros and cons, as I see them, of voting leave:

Pros:

Regain border control and control numbers of immigrants.
Regain national sovereignty as a whole and only elected UK MPs make law and UK judges are the only ones to arbitrate our laws.

Stay out of the Euro and the likely collapse that will occur of the currency when euro countries opt for "ever closer union," which they have to do.

Stay out of the significant risks to Europe when EU countries start merging together. Who really believes that an Italian is like a Estonian, or a Hungarian like a Swede?

Not to be controlled by Germany. We fought and won two world wars against them to prevent that. Orders do not come from Brussels, but Berlin.

Have trade agreements with whomever we want. Can't do that being in the EU.

Risks:

On day of Brexit, the value of our currency will likely fall by a third. Our stockmarket will crash and this could cause a global meltdown. I believe this will happen, it will be painful, but it won't last forever. But whether the country wants another recession for several years is another matter.

No guarantee of access to the Single Market.

Possible loss of major City firms from London as the big banks and others relocate to the EU.

The EU decide to go to "war" with us as a warning to other countries thinking of leaving the EU and make our lives as difficult as possible.
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