RizzyKing

It isn't appeasement a whole raft of agreements were made after the collapse of the U.S.S.R and one was no expansion by the west up to the borders of Russia and we have totally reneged on that as we thought we could do it and get away with it. Russia is no saint in all this but did we really have to hand them a perfect excuse which is exactly what we did. As to your point Damien they only respected Ukraine while they were grooming them for entry into the EU once in they would have been treated like any other member of the EU independent and sovereign only as long as it doesn't become inconvinient or interfere with the grand federal plan.

Everything that has gone on since the start of this referendum campaign demonstrates the EU and it's attitude more then I ever could just listen to the rhetoric of the EU brigade and then tell me it's a pleasant organisation with the best interests of the uk in any way. We will be "punished" if we leave, no room for "deserters" at the table as well as the numerous talk of trade wars, once upon a time that would have the country up in arms and guaranteed our leaving now it seems plenty of Brits are happy to be talked too in those terms and even support it.

Roll on June 23rd and hopefully a decisive leave vote because while I love most of Europe the EU part of it can sod off.