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Originally Posted by ianch99
I think that, for the record, there have been recent Cabinet ministers from the (unelected) House of Lords although not many I'll grant you.
Regards Corbyn, if you are the Leader of the Opposition you should have a policy and you should present it. I don't believe you have an opt out on this for such an important debate.
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Yes we have had, I think one Lord who was Prime Minister, maybe 2. Lord Liverpool comes to mind.
As for Corbyn, yes that's a hard one. Their policy is to remain in the EU though I'm sure there are a few Labour MPs who take the opposite view. I agree that he should present the policy or at least get the deputy to do it but I fear if he doesn't want the same thing to happen to Labour as the Tories he should either campaign or shut up and hand it to his deputy leader.
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Originally Posted by jamiefrost
That's completely wrong, the members of the council are put forward by the elected government of each member of the EU. They didn't just walk in off the street looking for a job.
There is no requirement for UK cabinet members to be elected as MPs first, you do not have any say in the members of the U.K. cabinet. Currently the UK cabinet contains 1 unelected member.
Fundamentally there is no difference on how much say you have in the members of either.
I didn't vote for a single cabinet member, neither did anyone in Leicester or the whole of Yorkshire, guess this means the cabinet is completely unrepresentative and undemocratic.
Jamie
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Do you read before posting? Did I not say elected by Governments or the Parliament? OK so it's the member states which is not the common people so therefore they are NOT elected as far as we are concerned. Do you think these Governments / States / Members just put anyone in there? They put those who are gonna make them richer and us poorer. It's been that way since time began and always will be. The rich fat cats of Europe get richer whilst the Euro struggles and the 500 million Citizens get poorer. They are creaming it off. Do you really want to be part of that? London is now reminiscent of Dickensian times today with its poorer areas as with other Cities. The only people who benefit from the EU are the rich.
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Originally Posted by jamiefrost
That's completely wrong, the members of the council are put forward by the elected government of each member of the EU. They didn't just walk in off the street looking for a job.
There is no requirement for UK cabinet members to be elected as MPs first, you do not have any say in the members of the U.K. cabinet. Currently the UK cabinet contains 1 unelected member.
Fundamentally there is no difference on how much say you have in the members of either.
I didn't vote for a single cabinet member, neither did anyone in Leicester or the whole of Yorkshire, guess this means the cabinet is completely unrepresentative and undemocratic.
Jamie
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I see your point in that respect but wouldn't you rather they handled the country's affairs rather than the EU? At least we would have a say where the money we do get back is spent - the WE here being the elected Government. If we, the people then don't like what they spend it on then we can boot them out. We CANNOT boot out the Fat Cats of the European Council.