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Old 06-06-2016, 11:03   #2582
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Not sure I get where you're coming from? Absolute poverty is not really that relevant to the UK. It's third world countries were it was more endemic. I was pointing out the weird contrast between the fact that inequality is increasing whilst absolute poverty is decreasing. These though are global trends.

Workers rights is a different, very Western, issue which isn't really the same issue as income inequality. We do have better workers rights than the US though if that's your point?

But workers rights is different to income inequality. They're not the same issue.
Now these 'third world' countries you talk about are not poor. Or should I say the Cities and Governments are not poor? I used to support Ethiopia until I say an item where 2 boat loads of whisky were being shipped to their Government in the late 80s. We send billions to those poor people and their Governments cream it off.

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Originally Posted by jamiefrost View Post
Ignoring the money argument for a minute and great big fat lies being told.

What do you mean by unelected?

The U.K. Government decides who represents the UKs interests on the EU Council. You don't vote for the UK cabinet or ministers and there is no requirement for members to be elected MPs.

How far do you take this, people from Yorkshire have no direct say on the members of the UK cabinet, does this mean there are unrepresented?

Jamie
Simple what I mean. The European Commission are unelected by the people. They are, however elected by the EU Ministers or the Parliament I believe. We have no say in it.

The Cabinet is different. You have already elected those Ministers whereas you haven't elected the Brussels lot.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
I am too. He seems to have been elected to be a Leader but has chose to step back from the spotlight. Doing so, no one, specifically the electorate, can get a read of the man in order to really judge him and his policies.

The view the right wing press present is, I suspect, distorted and incomplete. He should be trying to present himself in a more direct and coherent way. For example, I cannot remember him being on the Today programme recently.

As I said earlier, he may have a "cunning plan" in keeping out of the EU Vote mayhem or he may just be rubbish at his job ..
Yes he's a very clever man and knows exactly what he's doing and I think he's quite right. If you don't believe in what you're campaigning for, why campaign wholeheartedly for it.
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