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Old 01-06-2016, 08:01   #2387
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Because I think that would hit us either way. We can't isolate ourselves off from Europe and they will continue to be a big trading partner for us. Now that trade will take a hit if we do leave Europe, in my opinion, which would help protect us a bit but only in the sense that we'll have done the damage anyway. Alternatively if the Leave campaign are right that we'll keep the benefits of the single market then we take the economic hit in the EU or not in the EU.

If the EU is a sinking ship then all Leave are offering is the option to jump overboard. Either way we're going to drown. Better to try and steer the ship or hope it avoids any icebergs.

The thing is Europe will still be there with their problems. People will still be able to take advantage of their open borders and end up in Calais. Their economic regulations will still apply in any businesses here that wish to trade with Europe, albeit those that don't won't be bound by them, and any economic crash will take us along with it.

I think this article sums up the cautious conservatism of many Remain voters: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a...for-voting-in/ (open in private/incognito mode if it's paywalled for you).
Nonsense. What Leave are offering is an alternative to the sinking ship. Remain are beginning to sicken me now with their antics. Leave have proposed an Australian style points system for workers coming in from the EU and Remain say it will wreck the economy. What a load of bull-locks! Has it wrecked Australia's economy? It seems everything Leave propose will wreck or damage the economy. Remain don't have a valid reason to remain in the EU and so everything that's said by anyone who opposes them will wreck the economy.

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I'd like Remain to tell me how we are 'Stronger in Europe' when our voice in that den of thieves is getting weaker and will continue to do so the more integrated the EU becomes?

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And if you are in any doubt as to what remaining in the EU really means regarding Political and Economic integration, this from the Economist in 2015 should help.

Everything you need to know about European political union

IN AN interview on July 26th with the Financial Times, Italy’s finance minister, Pier Carlo Padoan, said his country supports a decisive move towards European "political union". The euro crisis and the recent bitter negotiations over a rescue programme for Greece have prompted many such calls for more European integration, often employing the same phrase, "political union"; in other quarters, the crisis has led to furious resistance to the idea of "political union". All of this raises the question: when Europeans refer to "political union", what do they mean?

Isn’t the European Union already a political union? Isn’t that rather the point of the whole project?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...st-explains-20

So if this is what Remain want then by all means vote to stay. Personally, I think it would be a big mistake as we won't be able to get out of it for at least another 40 - 50 years and by then it just may be too late. Thank God I won't be around to see it.
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