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Originally Posted by Damien
Because I think that would hit us either way. We can't isolate ourselves off from Europe and they will continue to be a big trading partner for us. Now that trade will take a hit if we do leave Europe, in my opinion, which would help protect us a bit but only in the sense that we'll have done the damage anyway. Alternatively if the Leave campaign are right that we'll keep the benefits of the single market then we take the economic hit in the EU or not in the EU.
If the EU is a sinking ship then all Leave are offering is the option to jump overboard. Either way we're going to drown. Better to try and steer the ship or hope it avoids any icebergs.
The thing is Europe will still be there with their problems. People will still be able to take advantage of their open borders and end up in Calais. Their economic regulations will still apply in any businesses here that wish to trade with Europe, albeit those that don't won't be bound by them, and any economic crash will take us along with it.
I think this article sums up the cautious conservatism of many Remain voters: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a...for-voting-in/ (open in private/incognito mode if it's paywalled for you).
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You'd be right that waiting until it's too late wouldn't be wise and that's why we need to act now, not in another few years when it's all either happened or imminent. From where I'm sitting getting off the sinking ship while we have time to take measures to mitigate the fallout to whatever extent is possible.
Nobody honestly believes there's a no risk/damage option but staying on a ship which refuses to change course (despite the mess Europe's in) is guaranteed to work out badly. A serious question - do you really think the EU will see sense and change course? If so, what makes you think that?
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On a separate note, I'd be interested to know how other forum members are tackling these issues at home re children who are voting. I long ago told Osem Jnr. that I don't want to know how he's voting and that I'll never ask him. Sadly, he has far more at stake than I do and I don't want to influence him at all so we won't be discussing it unless he wants to.