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Originally Posted by Pierre
I've been flip flopping over this for quite a while. I was initially remain, I crept into the leave camp for a few weeks, but now I'm back in remain.
The main reason being I am pretty much certain, in my own mind, that any deal to access the EU single market after we leave will result in us paying a similar amount of money that we do now, and have to agree to free movement. I also don't think the economy is strong enough at the moment.
I have concerns over the way the EU operates, but the way see it if you're out you're out. Whereas, if we stay in we can still see it out for a period of time. If it gets worse then we can always come out at a later date and we don't need a referendum to get out, just vote UKIP at the next available election as I'm sure EU exit will be No.1 on their manifesto list.
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This is not good at all:
1. Any deal we reach for the single market will cost nowhere near what we pay now as we won't be paying for the upkeep of the EU, only for the right to trade. We don't know about free movement yet. It may be we have to accept a percentage.
2. The economy is strong enough to handle leaving the EU. Growth is slowing, yes but it's the same the world over and has nothing to do with being in the EU.
3. Dream on. This is a once in a lifetime vote and if you vote to remain you are stuck with it for at least 50 years unless a majority of the public demand a vote and that's not likely if they vote to remain. The EU is NOT going to reform for the better or for our benefit. Plans are afoot for a European Army and Police Force. This with closer Political and Economic integration will mean the UK will have less say in what goes on as they have opted out of these things and would either have to join or be left out in the cold.
No, it's better to get out now as you won't be able to do it within the next 50 years and by then it will be so integrated there will be no chance of getting out without losing financially or otherwise.