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Old 29-05-2016, 18:07   #2317
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Smile re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Just like our remaining powers, it will be eroded away until Brussels calls all the shots at which time it'll be too late to do anything about it. Despite the occasional duplicitous, Bliar-like, remarks about learning from mistakes, being less bureaucratic/controlling, blah, blah, blah, they have no intention of doing anything of the sort. Given the wealth of experience we've had over the decades I find it truly astonishing that anyone would believe anything else.
I found it interesting that despite being Chancellor Of The Exchequer, George Osborne did not use official figures to support his argument.

He could have said that we pay a gross amount of £x billion to the EU each year but we receive a rebate of £y million as well as £z million in grants to the UK.

This would have given the public some concrete data to work with and we would have avoided all the pointless argument over how much we pay and how much we receive in our dealings with the EU.

In that way voters would appreciate more any increases in our contribution or reductions in our rebate or grants.

As usual it looks like the Conservatives are trying to use impressions of what is happening to cover the reality.

It would be ironic if David Cameron's Project Fear comments actually spurred people to vote leave or if he was deposed from his position of PM.
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