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Originally Posted by Hugh
Link, please?
Considering the Euro was only introduced in 1999, there wasn't much time before that...
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Links are not necessary, it's experience that counts here. Look at the polls and see who are most likely to vote leave - the older generation. The same generation who voted in 1975.
It has nothing to do with the Euro and I never mentioned it.
The truth of the matter is the UK can't move without fear of infringing or breaking EU rules or laws. Policies have to be thought out very carefully in case they infringe these rules or laws and in some cases scrapped even if they would have been good for the country. Governments can and promise you the moon but they can't deliver without considering what the damned EU would do if legislation was passed. Politicians have been on Andrew Marr mentioning this. From memory, one was asked by the Prime Minister to do something and he said he couldn't as it would infringe on EU rules. The Governments would have been able to pass better legislation that would have benefited us and not the EU. Wouldn't it be better to have those decisions in our own hands?
When people talk about getting back our democracy, this is the kind of thing they are talking about, stuff like that.
Economically definitely. Again experience tells us as does common sense that all that money we send and have sent to the EU regardless of what we do or don't get back would have been better spent in the UK. Over the years we must have sent trillions to the EU. It's debatable but the National debt would be nowhere near what it is if we had not been in the EU. It's doubtful our NHS would be in the state it's in had we not had to send all that money to the EU.
Just think laterally about things and you will see the sense. There is no substitute for experience. Younger people don't know anything other than being in the EU and so have nothing to compare it with and there will be most likely to vote to stay.
We were in the crap in the 70s not because we weren't in the EEC but because the workers held the country to ransom.
Then there is the biggie and probably the most important reason to vote leave. We are in a club we did not vote to be in. We voted to be in a single market to make trade in Europe much easier and that would be fine had it stayed that way. I would probably vote in today's climate to remain if that was still the case. However, we are not in the Common Market, we are in or heading towards a Political Union. Britain can't stay in the EU for the simple reason we don't want Political Union. With Schengen that is exactly what we will get. If we stay, we will be pushed further out into the cold.
Remain talk about having a voice if we stay but the truth is the voice will get smaller the more the EU integrates.
Experience friend there is no substitute.