re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Well if I listen to Cameron Damien turkey will become a member of the EU in a previous speech he was quite clear in wanting to pave roads from Brussels to Ankara and was quite enthusiastic about turkey joining the EU. Of course he is now saying differently as it's not a positive thing to pursue at the minute, but given the EU's desire to expand you honestly believe they are not going to admit turkey at some point in the next ten years?. This for me is another problem with the EU they are extremely selective on what they admit and what they tell any of us about future plans and pardon me for being cynical but that veto isn't worth the paper it's written on and once the issue of member states leaving the EU goes away so will that veto.
I asked before and Osem has also said if the EU is so great why are so many keen to get out and see it collapse surely we should all be happy and enthusiastic about the EU but we are not and as much as some would like to pretend it's only the UK that feels this way it isn't this movement is in many countries and growing. For me it isn't if the EU is going to collapse it's when and I'd much prefer the UK to have gotten out and be building rather then clinging onto the end with all the damage that will do.
As for fear there is no debate on who has used it most in this fiasco and we have weeks more of it to come I just hope enough don't fall for it and vote to remain as that will be more damaging for the UK and if we do vote to remain I think we will see quite quickly how much the EU really values the UK.
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