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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
So you don't have an idea how to cut fraud to zero
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Nope, and to be fair to me, I never claimed that I did. But nor do I think it requires anything innovative: the mechanism for tightening up is already in place.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
I highly doubt the level of fraud is higher then the government says given their agenda to benefits so it's a safe bet that figure is the max of fraud and overpayments.
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You could drive an electric scooter through the supposition

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
When people are caught they tend to be prosecuted more harshly then many other types of crime including violent crime so again not sure what it is you want done.
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It's not a matter of what I want done; every taxpayer, every benefits beneficiary and everyone responsible for administering the system should want cheats stopped and made to repay everything they have stolen.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
I've said before and I'll repeat that the welfare system does need reform but it has to be proper reform not the cost cutting this current government is doing to make sure the system targets those who need the help and support.
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As if by magic, we agree

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
It's always the vulnerable, decent, genuine claimants that get hit by crack downs and cuts for those very reasons, the thieves and shysters will just carry on filling their boots at their expense, useless wastes of of space whose lack of ambition is only matched by their sense of entitlement
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A more stringent system will possibly temporarily inconvenience some genuine claimants but this is what it will take to nail the thieves. Why should we put up with these people? It isn't ideal I know but better for the longer term health of the system and the awards that can be made to those in real need.
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Originally Posted by peanut
If you can pick up a coin, sit, stand, talk, walk 20 metres and put your hand in your top pocket, then regardless of whatever disability or illness you are deemed fit for work. And you wonder why people give up hope.
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Presumably, the tests are designed to indicate a reasonable level of dexterity and mobility. You don't feel they truly test fitness for work so what needs to be adjusted? There are probably many 'able-bodied' full time working taxpayers who have enough aches and pains so as to struggle with some of those tests but that won't qualify them for motability.
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Originally Posted by techguyone
Finally someone to talk sense into Kursk (good luck) he's on a 'mission' despite there being very many far more worthy objectives to choose from, saving potentially many more millions if not Billions - No.
Our man Kursk wants to pursue those motability people with religious fervour!

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Oh gawd, you're back

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You just don't want this subject mentioned do you?