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Originally Posted by martyh

I suggest that in future if you want a real discussion about a topic you read more mature and less discriminatory material ,it's also worth finding out some facts about the subject you wish to discuss because at the moment you just look like an idiot with a big chip on your shoulder about disabled people .

There are things that need to change in the benefits system ,including Motability but when people like you start spouting that kind of rubbish all that happens is sensible debate gets smothered by discrimination and hatred .

This sort of fraud needs to be kept in the public eye. In our small way we are helping to sustain awareness. Two idiots with 2 big chips it seems but thanks for helping.

You say there are things that need to change with Motability, what do you suggest?

Originally Posted by techguyone

I'm not keeping score, I do find it a bit odd that you'd turn off your rating at all - if only temporarily.

Is that to ensure your more volatile, and not very well thought out posts don't attract negative scoring?

Turning off rating does not prevent negative rep. Turning off rating is just a personal choice. Sigh...

Originally Posted by Stephen

Please be reminded that you are not a mod. Stop trying to tell other users what to do.
Also stick to the topic please.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Um. Respectfully......he is the OP who is trying to make a point, so it seems reasonable that he's anxious that the thread stays on topic. It seems a bit harsh that a mod (you) tells him off for doing something that a mod (you) should have been doing......and then tells him to stick to the topic, which is what he would probably like to do. Just saying......seems odd

Thanks Ramrod. I'm confused too. There is nothing in Stephen's post that I understand:

I know I'm not a mod (I don't dress as a French Maid for a start)
I am not telling others what to do (I politely asked a member to refrain from going off topic); and
I am staying on topic.

Exactly where did I go wrong Stephen?

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

If you really want to debate the welfare system in the uk your first action should be avoiding the daily mail it's a hateful little rag pandering to a fortunately dying group and absolutely cannot be trusted to present the facts. There is no perfect system never has and never will be there are always ways to abuse....cut......

If your on disability benefits for any length of time i can assure you your not a fraud both medical technology and understanding of physiology have made it near impossible to commit fraud longterm by claiming medical problems. I only know the one way to get disability benefits while pretending to have an issue, you make the claim which will go through a GP's letter will suffice for an initial application you will get benefits for a few months then as your nearing the six month period you cease the disability claim and go back to JSA. Claiming disability benefits for longer then six months gets you on the assessment list and after six months most GP's will refer you to a consultant.

So if you meet people who have constantly been on disability benefits for two years or more despite what you might think they are legit. Generally i have found the people criticising or claiming how easy benefits are have never actually gone through the system they have just read about it in a paper and accepted it as correct and never delve much deeper.

The Mail is a National newspaper with circulation figures that would seem to suggest it reflects a popular view. That said, the article referenced is available free online so you don't need to subscribe to view and to discuss the topic. You're not getting your hands dirty on a 'hateful little rag' that is frequently referenced on this forum.

You have cited a benefits workaround. Are you content with that fraud then? And how does anyone reliably disprove the infamous "bad back"?