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Perhaps I should've tried shouting you might have realised I was describing the early negotiations that way, I thought I was being quite clear using words like back then etc and here's a link going back then to, wasn't that hard to find either
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which they fear will cut their pay by up to 40%,
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So still no evidence.
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One junior doctor said the move would mean that his pay goes down significantly, from about £31,000 – his basic salary of almost £23,000 plus 40% more for working one evening until 9pm and one weekend in four – to close to his basic earnings. “None of us feel we need to be paid more. We already work far longer than our allotted hours for free as patients’ care requires it.
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With the 13.5% the basic goes up to 26,105. Difficult to be sure what day of the week he is referring for the evening work(until 9pm). Under the current contract, only Mon-Fri 7-9pm and weekends attract any extra. Under the new contract the 5-9pm on Saturday and all day Sunday attracts an extra 33% on top of the 13.5% basic. That gives 51% extra for just those hours. Any basic rate(at the extra 13.5%) Saturday 7am-5pm, should possibly more than be made up with the extra 13.5% for the Mon-Fri. As for the working for free, the proposal is to pay at the "prevailing rate" for those extra hours, and if it puts them over the 48hr average or 72hr weekly limits they get time and a half. The main impact to him seems to be the basic(ie+13.5%) for the one Saturday in 4, but just think of all the other Mon-Fri work days with 13.5% raise. Just 3 days of that cover the 40% gap and the other Mon-Fri work days in that 28day period will add even more. An average of 4.5hrs/week, affected on the new basic(+13.5%). Unless those are pretty much the only hours he works, sounds like he will be in for a pay rise rather than a pay cut.
The only real differences to the BMA proposals seem to be the 2 hours 7-8am and 8-9pm Mon-Fri and 7am-5pm Saturday. But at the same time they are only looking for a 4-7% basic raise and not the 13.5% offered.
Does that sound like anything to get worked up about and go on strike for?