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Originally Posted by nomadking
Well the junior doctors are going on about unsafe hours and the dangers of being tired, when in TRUTH their hours are being reduced and working patterns that have been AGREED with the BMA. And the evidence that they will all get 40% pay cuts is...................nowhere to be found. They would be constantly screaming it out if there was any evidence. Let's suppose that if you look at a particular OCCASIONAL shift pattern of full weekend working. That PEAK earning week might go down, but with the 13.5% increase for all the other days, the average won't change. Apparently the BMA only want a basic increase of 4-7% and not the 13.5% offered. Sounds like the BMA ALSO agreed to whatever pay cuts there turns out to be. The NHS has the doctors working hours data and can carry out "what if" scenarios and other modelling to check the impact. They are better placed to identify the true level of impact. The November offer has "time off in lieu for additional work", whereas the current offer pays the appropriate rate until the hours limits are hit, and then it is time and a half.
Channel 4 factcheck from Nov 2015 |
Perhaps I should've tried shouting you might have realised I was describing the early negotiations that way, I thought I was being quite clear using words like back then etc and here's a link going back then to, wasn't that hard to find either
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...ay-40-per-cent