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Originally Posted by martyh
I'm fed of both campaigns using trade deals as a reason to leave or remain ,it's quite simply rubbish .Trade deals will happen regardless of our position in Europe .Last year there was $56,352m in exports and $57,805m in imports, that trade will not disappear if we leave the EU simply because the companies and organisations that do that trade will still want to trade .
If voters are going to vote on the economy then it's a slam dunk for the leave campaign because us dumb voters have seen us give the rest of Europe billions in financial aid propping up bankrupt banks on the continent as part of our obligation as a EU state
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... and I reckon our obligation to the EU will only ever increase too, in a number of ways. Whether it's the Euro, Greece, open borders, expansionism etc. you can bet we'll receive more than our fair share of the pain their madness has created. No we can't, sadly, isolate ourselves from all of the fallout but staying in will make matters far worse IMHO since our leaders have proved to be totally spineless when it comes to telling it how it is.
Why anyone would think that other countries we're in competition with would really have our best interests at heart is beyond me. They quite rightly care most about themselves and I've no doubt us staying in to carry on paying the bills, for example, would suit them just fine.
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Originally Posted by Damien
It's not aimed at you (or me for that matter) but undecided voters. The idea being that there will be enough voices warning of the economic risk that people will vote to Remain. It doesn't matter that you think that logic is wrong unless other people become convinced it's wrong too.
Does it matter if they're 'seriously scared'? They're campaigning with everything they've got. I think it would be better for Leave if they weren't scared. Maybe they've learnt the dangers of complacency from the Scottish campaign.
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Yes it does, it matters because they sense they could well lose and that should encourage those of us who can see beyond the ends of our noses and want to get out and those who feel likewise but believe it's a done deal so not worth voting on.
If they weren't running so scared it'd be proof they felt they had the matter in the bag. They clearly don't feel they've won just yet.